One server is packed and one is dead.

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

Ya so why is one server packed and one server always dead?

Sometimes when me and a couple clanmates want to play CSS we can't because our beloved haven NR is jam packed, and the other server is just gungame.

Why not just put both of them on standard CSS? Maybe drop the player limit to 18 on both to limit lag, and were set.

Maybe even set one to run through a map cycle with all the standard CSS maps with no RTV. Then all the RTV to dust_2 whores (luv ya guys) can play dust_2/mill all day long on the other server. At the same time others who enjoy variety could play all kinds of maps.

Believe it or not, the server actually played chateau today, and it was one of the best matches I have played in a long time.

Just a thought

[ORION]

Old topic is Old
not to disrespec, but this has been gone over, time after time after time.

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

I'm new :P

[Crayola]

maybe someone should buy a reserved slot

[Sniffles]

GB set it to chateau for us, i dont think its in the regular server rotation though. great fuggin' map!

[Jav]

Just nominate something obscure before typing rtv. Lots of people will go, "oh shit I love that map" and might vote for it.

And dust2 and mill are the shit. ;)

[DeathSniper]

No one votes for compound when I nominate it :(

[Calamity Gundam]

I like the idea of reducing it to 18 players per server.

I wonder if that would actually help the lag though. Instead of 20-24 players, the server might have to support 36 players. This may cause more lag than what we deal with now.

[manofphat]

Well here's the thing.
The plan right now is to ditch the secondary CS:S server and replace it with a TF2 server when that comes out. Does anyone know the ETA on TF2? If it's in a month or two I say that we just leave the shit the way we have it now but if a lot of other people feel differently then we can hook some regular CS:S up.

I'll have to start referring to the servers with numbers. IE server #2 or TNR2 instead of gungame and regular :x

[WiseGuy]

maybe we should just set the second server to a regular CSS server but have it run aim / custom maps

[Jav]

No one votes for compound when I nominate it :(

I said obscure, not terrible :lol:

[lefty]

Well here's the thing.
The plan right now is to ditch the secondary CS:S server and replace it with a TF2 server when that comes out. Does anyone know the ETA on TF2? If it's in a month or two I say that we just leave the shit the way we have it now but if a lot of other people feel differently then we can hook some regular CS:S up.

I'll have to start referring to the servers with numbers. IE server #2 or TNR2 instead of gungame and regular :x

october 10.

[WiseGuy]

Im buying the orange box!

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

Freaking brilliant mano!!! :D

The valve Orange box releases Oct.9

So just over a month.

I would definetly love to see a TF2 server. That is gonna be a sick game....and wicked package.


HMMM, I wonder what it takes to run a Crysis dedicated server? Probably a quantum computer :P


Either way, can we please see some more MAP VARIETY on the server, pretty please.

[Knight Templar]

take it down till then?

[manofphat]

Either way, can we please see some more MAP VARIETY on the server, pretty please.

The only way to do this would be to get rid of voting completely and just work on map cycles.

[RANDOM H3RO]

Well I do admit, dust_2 has become somewhat of a boring map, fun sure....unless it's with people that don't know it.....

Mill has always been a fave of mine though.....

Ah, you know what? Fuck it, leave the shit how it is and then change it to TF2

SNIPER & Soldier FTW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaF638MBSAE

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

The only way to do this would be to get rid of voting completely and just work on map cycles.

I would like that. :P

Believe or not, I miss alot of maps I used to think I hated...such as dust1, assault, tides, ect.

The problem is most CSS players are only concerned about one thing. Their score. Hitting tab every 5 seconds to see how they look in everyone else's eye's, stat whores if you will, and by extension....noobs. These are the pussies who whine and cry when they are CT on assault, or T on dust.

I personally find it fun fighting up hill. It forces you to actually play, think, strategize.

Couldn't you just do the following?

A. Add ALL the stock CSS maps back into the cycle/selection.

B.Have the next map decided by a vote that is randomly generated.

C.Remove RTV.

That would ensure map variety, and it would allow the players still have say in playing a map they like somwhat.

[lefty]

dont remove rtv... please dont.

the problem with assault is that the round time is 2 min, and there is no way ct can get to the hostages, and take them back to spawn in under 2 minutes. for that reason, that map is awful.

[DeathSniper]

I look at the scoreboard all the time...stop calling me a noob :(

[SharpShooter]

Ok, well for all of you that feel like playig Dust 1, Assault and all those other worthless maps go for it, but go and do it on another server. The only reason that we have some good people playing in the TNR servers is because we don't play those maps.

About 70 - 80% of the people that play in the TNR servers are eaither in cal or want to play the cal maps not the other ones that may be some what fun from time to time but to have them rotating on a regular basis would cause the server to empty out.

If you actually play on the servers for a while you will notice that durring the non peak times in order for us to fill up the server we have to make sacrifices and yes play D2 or Office a couple of times because that is what a lot of people prefer to play. So unless you feel like playing in a server that would be dead for the majority of the day I would just learn to be happy with what we have, or maby donate and buy a reserved slot.

As far as the other server goes, I have always thought that it would do better as a normal server where once the first server is full you would transfer new players that are trying to join the full server to the second server to help populate it. However that being said I think a TF2 server would be lots of fun and lets just hope that we are able to build a comunity around it and have the server become something similar to what our current normal css server has come to be.

PS. For all those that voted for this gungame server and thought that it would be a great idea how come none of you are ever in the server? So please for the sake of others next time your going to vote please don't vote for something that seems like a cool idea but rather for something that you can see yourself playing on a regular basis.

[WiseGuy]

As far as the other server goes, I have always thought that it would do better as a normal server where once the first server is full you would transfer new players that are trying to join the full server to the second server to help populate it.

sadly this cant be done, i belive mano has looked into it. we even deployed a "quickswap" feature where you would type swap into chat and it would shift you to the other server, but it was glitchy and didnt end up staying.

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

If you actually play on the servers for a while you will notice that durring the non peak times in order for us to fill up the server we have to make sacrifices and yes play D2 or Office a couple of times because that is what a lot of people prefer to play.

A couple times? This server is almost exclusive dust2/mill. Might as well change the name to 24/7.....

If the majority of people on this server are cal (which is not true) go play your CAL maps, on your private CAL servers, with all your CAL friends. We all know pubs are for noobs right?

Maybe assault and dust1 are extreme. But there are LOTS of great maps that don't get played. Tides is fun. Chateau is awesome. Piranesi is sick.

And if you are worried about imbalanced maps, why does aztek see alot of action?


Look at the maps statistics. dust2 and mill are leaps above the rest in play time.

[WiseGuy]

i still lol when i see mill gets so much playtime :P as once tim said "only on nr"... i dont think other servers even play any cpl maps but people on our pub love mill.

we have a very odd set of regulars

[Krythos]

ok. first off. I play on the gungame all the time. half of my time is spent on it honing my gun skills on my crap computer. I would play even more if winston would make it like 7 bots per team and see about getting them auto removed when someone joins, not just when a round is over. (that way even "big" maps on the gun game would have enough people around to kill)

as for the orange box, im probably going to buy it myself. even though I have HL2 already, ill make a new steam account and use this one for when I have friends over. or ill let my cousin use it

[EyeMaster]

For the record...
I never play gungame unless i'm forced!

[ORION]

ok. first off. I play on the gungame all the time. half of my time is spent on it honing my gun skills on my crap computer. I would play even more if winston would make it like 7 bots per team and see about getting them auto removed when someone joins, not just when a round is over. (that way even "big" maps on the gun game would have enough people around to kill)

as for the orange box, im probably going to buy it myself. even though I have HL2 already, ill make a new steam account and use this one for when I have friends over. or ill let my cousin use it

For the record, 1 bot has the CPU load on a source dedicated server of about 5 real players, those 7 Bots would amount to 2 regular pubs on a machine that already has 5 servers running on it. I don't disagree that it would be fun, because it would be, however unless someone is putting up the cash for more hardware we should be prepared to see it never happen.

[SharpShooter]

If the majority of people on this server are cal (which is not true) go play your CAL maps, on your private CAL servers, with all your CAL friends. We all know pubs are for noobs right?


You say all of that and you want change but you do know that actions speak louder than words so why don't you go over to that little donate button on the left side of the site click it enter in an amount and donate. Untill that day comes don't expect a pile of change because almost all of those that are donating are in cal, and the reason that we all enjoy playing here is because there are other quality players and because we get to play the CAL maps.

Just comming and posting about getting assault and dust added to the server is not to constructive, especially when I have never even heard of you before. If you want to be taken seriously eaither build up a reputation and donate some money so that you can have some what of a say in what goes on or be happy with what we have here. I don't know about you but I am pretty happy with our normal css server.

[ORION]

especially when I have never even heard of you before.
Apoc has been around since before I was, however Sharp makes a valid point that he hasn't been around lately and hasn't been tossing any cash at the server and on that note is not in a position to be making any sort of demand (not to insinuate that you were) or much more then a suggestion. Also, I've played shat, pira and tides all within the last 7 days on the pub, pira comes on fairly often actually, we are far from a back and forth D2/Mill server but yes, those 2 maps probably get close to half of the server time, they are fair, and easy to learn and don't really require anyone to take charge in order to ensure team balance as alot of other maps do (see: Aztec & Nuke). Anyway guys, lets not get into a shit flinging competition here, CAL players pay the bills, CAL players bring the regs so it makes sense that the CAL players should make the calls.

[SKULLCRUSHER]

Wow, where to start here. First off, let me just start by saying Apoc has been around for a very long time, as Orion has just mentioned. As is the case with other players, they change their name from time to time, which makes it hard to recognize them as a regular.

As everyone knows the pub and website are financed on the generous donations of our site and server members, many of which are on NR1 & NR2. We know from experience that a good chunk of our population is younger, lacking the income required to make a donation or commit to anything regular. We accept this as it is the nature of an online Pub and we look to our team members and regulars to try and accommodate the financial burden.

As many of you know I believe in what we have here as a community and a top-rated server and put my money behind it because I have that capability. I would ask that you do not berate or talk down to any other member because they have yet to make a donation. As I said, we don't all have the ability to contribute. Making suggestions for the site and server should still be welcome and is actually invited.

[ORION]

Making suggestions for the site and server should still be welcome and is actually invited.
However, a bad suggestion is still bad and should probably be ignored, on to the next suggestion gentlemen?

[WiseGuy]

i don't think we need to make ANY changes to the regular server because its obviously doing really well for itself as it is, hence the number of regulars.

However, we are always open for suggestions to the second server to help get it equally populated.

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

Just comming and posting about getting assault and dust added to the server is not to constructive

Maybe you should read back and see that is NOT at all what I am saying......stranger. :p


But if you guys are so dead set against it, w/e.

RTV to dust2 FTW!

[The Killing Joke]

I like Dust 2. Hell, I even like Dust 1. Screw anyone who claims it's one sided. You're just not working hard enough!

:))