script?

[lefty]

is there some sort of script that makes your crosshair jump to head level? there is a guy named 'artie' on the server who isnt that great, but his crosshair is always jumping up to head level... any idea how?

[ORION]

Bot?
I don't think valve would leave any commands in capable of accomplishing that simply using CSS, You'd need something else.

[manofphat]

Yeah there is something that can bounce your crosshair back to head level. It is a script. I remember someone talking about it about a year ago.

[ORION]

or DS talking about it about 2 weeks ago?
I'm pretty sure that CAL or someone would have said something about it, and it would have been zBlocked for sure.

[manofphat]

No it was a while ago when I was talking to a member about keeping their crosshair at head level when they were walking someone else mentioned that script.
Our public servers don't run zBlock so it wouldn't have been detected.

[ORION]

well, I know that there's a pitch or yaw command that you can toggle to 0 so your cross hair should snap back.

[lefty]

i dont know... it was just weird because he would be looking at foot level, then all of a sudden snap back right at head level. but i highly doubt he was hacking cause he was like 1 and 8.

[manofphat]

sometimes people are bad at hacking.
As long as it didn't go directly to people heads then it's okay FOR NOW. The admins will keep an eye out for it.

[DeathSniper]

Certain scripts cannot be zblocked. While some of the commands they use that give people an 'advantage' are blocked; there is usually a way around it with other commands and aliases. I'm not sure if the command is still used in CSS as I haven't paid much attention the game the past year or two :|

The headshot level script is a highly debated topic from back in CS beta - while it's not technically a cheat or hack, it gives the user an unfair advantage when USED CORRECTLY. You still need skill to work it. It's kinda like an aimbot or wallhack that you use - if you haven't configured the aimbot correctly it'll be useless, and if you weren't that great to begin with the wallhack won't exactly turn you into a monster.

If you can get a demo of this artie guy I'd love to look it over.

[null]

I recall seeing a similar one, only it was for turning around instantly, rather than leveling the crosshairs. Same principle, and still quite blatantly wrong. You can debate it all you want as an ethical issue. The fact of the matter is, that from a technical standpoint, it's wrong. Anything that alters the game from the way it's originally meant to be played is a hack.

To squash any debate here, let me just say this:
The first-person view point of this game is meant to be -manually- moved about, correct? Now, if I were to input a command to automatically change it to any position, that would in effect be altering it, and thus, a hack.

Yar.

[DeathSniper]

I would argue that from a technical standpoint it's not wrong. All you're doing is combining commands that are already implemented into the game together. That's like saying people with widescreen monitors should not have an advantage over people with 4:3 monitors. The commands are part of the game, just like gamma and 16:9 and 16:10 resolution support. These aliases and scripts are generated the same way as the buy command scripts. I'd like to reiterate that there is NOTHING different between a hs script/leveler and say...auto-buy script, changing crosshair color script, or network rate toggler. Nothing. Anyone can do it; just because some people actually exercise that option does not make them 'hackers'. So thus, technically there is nothing wrong with writing and using said types of scripts.

However, from an ethical, moral, or 'admin' type of view - these things fall into a gray category and as thus some are deemed "OK" while others are deemed "NOT OK". If you see nothing wrong with someone using a crosshair color script, then why would you say anything about a leveller? The crosshair colors DO give certain 'advantages' depending on the location of the map, background, and color preference by the user. Different color crosshairs are easier/harder to see on different parts of each map. Further complicating matters is the fact that although these scripts are supposed to give a person an advantage - do they really? I've written hs-scripts as well as burst-fire scripts before and tested out on my server with other people; almost 3/4ths of them who used it hated it and it pretty much made their gameplay on par with a total newbie. If someone is using one and they're doing worse than they would if they didn't have it - it's not giving him an advantage now is it? Just something I figure I'd bring up.

Anyways, I'm only stating such things simply because there are some interesting discussions on these types of 'commands' on such sites as punkbuster, counter-hack, and steambans. I believe the end result is that certain types of scripts are deemed 'prohibited' in general by server admins, REGARDLESS of the fact of whether or not they give the user an advantage.

Oh, and iirc, the cursor center command was put in for people who still prefer to use keyboards or joysticks to aim :) Believe it or not, there *are* still a few of them around :p

[null]

Oh, and iirc, the cursor center command was put in for people who still prefer to use keyboards or joysticks to aim :) Believe it or not, there *are* still a few of them around :p

My Dog, I haven't done that since Duke3d, and even then, it was only because the mouse support only made it harder to aim. Worst I've seen is the touchpad users. I couldn't imagine trying to play w/ a keyboard, nowadays. It's bad enough trying to aim w/ a gamepad a-la 360. I suppose that one could argue that you have the same problem with a mouse, when you're not used to it, though. Anyways. Off-topic. I shut up, now.

[DeathSniper]

Hehe...yes it is indeed hard as hell now...
I had a buddy who used to use a gamepad for the original CS beta...was freaking wack watching him play.