Dustbowl/Gravelpit [Archive] - The Northern Resistance

Onawire

01-01-2008, 02:48 PM

Hi,

As some of you probably know I play on the 24/7 Dustbowl server alot. Its a great map and I do enjoy it. BUT as the skill and knowledge of most players has risen the Dustbowl map has become more and more lopsided in favour of Red. I'm not against this but it can be a little frustrating and I'm hoping valve is trying to fix it. However I love Gravelpit, its a similiar map and I was thinking maybe after every full round of Dustbowl (team 1 attacks team 2 then team 2 attacks team 1) it could do a round of gravelpit.

Anyways just a thought, servers great!

Later

Boodah

01-01-2008, 04:01 PM

I am a fan of this idea. Gravelpit is also a really fun map for lots of players.

24/7 Dustbowl / Gravelpit servers are pretty popular.

manofphat

01-01-2008, 04:04 PM

I don't think we should change the Dustbowl server because it's doing pretty well but there are talks of adding a 24/7 gravelpit/2fort server

Krythos

01-01-2008, 04:25 PM

should change no 2 to the GP 2fort server. so we dont end up with, yet another, tf2 server

manofphat

01-01-2008, 04:32 PM

what's wrong with having another TF2 server?

Onawire

01-01-2008, 05:25 PM

Changing 2 would be awesome too, basically I just want some variety while avoiding granary. I made the 2fort/gravelpit suggestion as well so whichever way it decides I'll definately play on it. Though I must say dustbowl/gravelpit would basically be the jam.

Boodah

01-01-2008, 05:54 PM

Do people like high player count 2FORT? Isn't it pretty much impossible if you get 4 engineers set up properly to do anything?

DeathSniper

01-01-2008, 07:13 PM

Doesn't it make it much more meaningful when you get the cap then? :p
I dunno...I'm one of those engineers that props his sentry gun up, and then takes a nap... ;)

Knight Templar

01-01-2008, 08:56 PM

a couple of ubers can take that down. High player count 2fort might take longer to play, but I think it'll be pretty fun.

SharpShooter

01-02-2008, 12:50 AM

Don't change one of the other servers, just add another one.... our box can handle it.

rk-

01-02-2008, 02:01 AM

Uggg.. I hate 2fort, lol. Love the idea of a dedicated gravel pit/(something) server, though.. maybe hydro?

I think there has to be some changes on the Dust server, however. Need to add a map-restart mod or something - I don't think I've played a round on that server in over a month that wasn't lob-sided, with one team just raping the other. I know that's kind of the nature of a DB server, but still it gets out of hand sometimes. And it's not even a matter of good players taking it upon themselves to switch teams - often they can't, because the server is full.

Xy1

01-02-2008, 03:17 AM

I'm a fan of the dustbowl / gravelpit idea. I've been playing on the dustbowl only server a lot and when teams are imbalanced I feel the game time is too long. It really should be 1 full game as offense and one full game as defense. Then switching to gravelpit would be nice. :)

Boodah brings up an interesting point for 32 player 2fort if you go with the adding a 2fort/gravelpit server... I haven't personally tried one... I'll try to find one and come back and comment...

Sharpie

01-02-2008, 02:03 PM

I would hate to see the dedicated dustbowl server go, however I would be in favor of converting #2 or #4 to a dedicated Gravel Pit/<map> server. I had suggested the 2fort dedicated server awhile ago and am still in favor of that. Even if you have multiple snipers on 2fort, there is the water way. I regularly backstab the 'pwnage' snipers on 2fort.

Anywho, NO to removing dedicated dustbowl server, YES to adding a dedicated Gravel Pit server.

WiseGuy

01-02-2008, 02:23 PM

the 24/7 Dustbowl server defines the NR TF2 community... it cannot go, its like a family member.

MaLeK

01-02-2008, 03:08 PM

This is true Dustbowl should remain, A Gravelpit and 2fort (or whatever but the other maps wouldnt bring as much attention of course) server would be good, that would mean NR has 4 servers for tf2 of all the good maps so if you dont like one you goto the other for more 24/7 joy! hah

Boodah

01-02-2008, 03:20 PM

There are also some really fun custom maps out there........... but I would love to see some Dustbowl, Dustbowl and Gravel are my fav.

SharpShooter

01-02-2008, 03:42 PM

People we would not remove the 24/7 Dustbowl server; we would merely just put up another TF2 server with what ever map combination people would want the most. I say that Winston goes ahead and eaither adds a poll to this thread or makes a new one with a poll.

manofphat

01-02-2008, 06:37 PM

There's too many possibilities here! We need to narrow it down some more.
Personally I think that instead of adding another server we should change #4.
I believe all the options discussed are (please tell me if I forgot one):

24/7 Gravelpit/2fort (32 man)
24/7 Gravelpit (32 man)
24/7 Gravelpit/2fort (24 man)
24/7 Gravelpit (24 man)

I think to give things a shot I might convert #4 to 24/7 Gravelpit and see how it does if I have enough time tonight

theCakeisaSpy

01-02-2008, 07:06 PM

ughhhh i usually switch servers whenever 2fort comes up on any server, just doesnt have the fun factor of some of the new maps.
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ughhhh i usually switch servers whenever 2fort comes up on any server, just doesnt have the fun factor of some of the new maps.

32 gravel pit would be sweeeeeeetttttttt

WiseGuy

01-02-2008, 07:40 PM

i vote for both 1 and 2, just as long as its 32man

DeathSniper

01-02-2008, 08:26 PM

OPTION 1 OR OPTION 3!!!!!!!

manofphat

01-02-2008, 08:48 PM

#4 is now 24/7 Gravel 32-man - lets give it a shot and see how it works out

Boodah

01-02-2008, 09:00 PM

Man can't wait, hittin that up tonight after work!! C'yall there!

Xy1

01-03-2008, 02:34 AM

I read this late and joined up but there were only a few people on each team... :S... i'll try again tomorrow...
Server #4 says server #3 24/7 gravelpit on servers list in tf2... might wanna fix that.

I tried 2 different 32man 2forts and they last forever... on one of the servers, some people were even playing melee only cuz it was getting boring. On the second server, people were a little more serious but it was way too defensive.
If we do add a 32man 2fort in a rotation with gravelpit and/or dustbowl, there should be a time limit on it! ;)

I vote choice no.5 : 32man gravelpit/dustbowl =)

manofphat

01-03-2008, 06:23 AM

Yeah sorry about the server name. I changed it earlier on but people joined so the map needed to change for it to change lol

jkaupp

01-03-2008, 10:13 AM

Either 32 Gravelpit/2Fort or 24 Gravelpit/2Fort for me.

I'd like to see the outside shot for 24 Gravelpit/Mach2 for me :)

Mortivex

01-03-2008, 06:23 PM

I play two sets of servers - this and another to remain nameless which is 24/7 DB/GP. I like the switch-up every now and then but DB is still the best. Now that tNR has a GP server, I'll never need to use anything else again...and I can keep all my stats in one place.

There's such a different caliber of player here...

Let's put it this way..

I don't consider myself a bad player, but by no means am I up to the quality of some of the best on tNR.

That "other" server I play on, I'm ranked in the high 100's. I only played when tNR is down or empty, and I go for weeks at a time w/o ever relogging in. That being said, I'm -still- in the top 100's w/o playing for as long as I have..

rk-

01-03-2008, 08:02 PM

Give the 24/7 GP server some time, when #3 DB first went up it took a little while for it to be constantly full, too. #4 will get there - GPs a better map, anyways :)

Onawire

01-04-2008, 12:08 AM

Would it be possible to add Server 4 to the hlstatsx server page (http://tnr.hlstatsx.com/?game=tf), now that its not FF and all...

Xy1

01-04-2008, 12:10 AM

What's the restart time on Server #4. I was in there for quite a while and it never reset. It'd be fun to see a shorter restart time, especially when you're stuck on the losing team ;)

I tried «timeleft» a few times but it always told me 0:00... does that mean it never restarts?

Yeah, and what Onawire said =)

manofphat

01-04-2008, 12:33 AM

Would it be possible to add Server 4 to the hlstatsx server page (http://tnr.hlstatsx.com/?game=tf), now that its not FF and all...

Yeah I'll add it in a bit

What's the restart time on Server #4. I was in there for quite a while and it never reset. It'd be fun to see a shorter restart time, especially when you're stuck on the losing team ;)

I tried «timeleft» a few times but it always told me 0:00... does that mean it never restarts?

Yeah, and what Onawire said =)

The map should have restarted after the current round after you typed timeleft. I took the same config that was on the dustbowl server which is why it was set to #3 for the first round that it was online lol

rk-

01-04-2008, 01:17 PM

It wasn't restarting - I was in with Xy, when the timeleft was at 0:00, and after every win/loss it would just swap teams and continue on.

manofphat

01-04-2008, 03:51 PM

Let me know if it does that again. I just changed a setting.
Stats are also enabled on that server now

t0kFULL

01-04-2008, 06:42 PM

same with the dustbowl 24/7 server, it just restarts after you´ve played map 1 or whatever its called :P

manofphat

01-04-2008, 06:59 PM

I just changed that.
Sorry! I broke it when fixing it!

rk-

01-05-2008, 01:27 AM

Fired.

manofphat

01-05-2008, 11:26 AM

Fired.

onoz give me another chance!

Knight Templar

01-05-2008, 01:14 PM

You can't out manofire a manofphat

Xy1

01-13-2008, 10:24 PM

Anybody else noticing the 24/7 gravelpit being empty a lot lately?
Time to try a new map combo?
Gravelpit/Dustbowl?
Gravelpit/Dustbowl/2fort?
Time for a poll? ;)

Onawire

01-13-2008, 10:55 PM

Gravelpit/Dustbowl or 2fort or all 3 for sure

Radiojock

01-13-2008, 11:03 PM

I'd vote All 3, actually.

i like it whenthey rotate like that.

And, admittedly, I actually ENJOY 2fort.

WiseGuy

01-14-2008, 12:50 AM

I got killed frequently by enemy solider, but most target I took down was heavy man, and probably his dumb medic that stand still like a statue holding a sign - shoot me in the head please LoL - But as a good medic I always keep moving behind my buddy, but sometime I got sniped too

Cleavage Monkey

01-14-2008, 01:07 AM

manofphat

01-14-2008, 12:14 PM

I've added a poll to the thread. Please note that it's MULTIPLE CHOICE! Select whatever you would play on!

Xy1

01-15-2008, 01:39 AM

Voting doesn't bump the post up! :(

Thx for adding it!

rgoff31

01-15-2008, 11:11 AM

It's sounds like the hardware could handle more servers.

You could try maybe a CTF Only Server, running 2fort and a 1 or 2 custom CTF maps.
I 've played CTF_Mach2 and it's pretty decent.

http://www.game-monitor.com/topmaps.php?game=tf2
http://www.fpsbanana.com/maptypes/1837?&order=maps.rating&sort=desc
http://www.map-factory.org/team-fortress-2/all/ctf

manofphat

01-24-2008, 02:32 PM

Well this poll is closed now but I think I have to wait to try out warpath and we might have to do another vote

jkaupp

01-24-2008, 02:35 PM

It's sounds like the hardware could handle more servers.

You could try maybe a CTF Only Server, running 2fort and a 1 or 2 custom CTF maps.
I 've played CTF_Mach2 and it's pretty decent.

I love me some mach 2 and variants of. Mach 4 is pretty much the same, but a whole lot prettier.

ArchAngel2

01-24-2008, 02:38 PM

Anybody else noticing the 24/7 gravelpit being empty a lot lately?
Time to try a new map combo?
Gravelpit/Dustbowl?
Gravelpit/Dustbowl/2fort?
Time for a poll? ;)

Switch it o 24/7 Warpath. It's a pretty popular map and would likely keep a healthy population running.

Radiojock

01-24-2008, 02:48 PM

WOOT WARPATH!

rk-

01-24-2008, 03:01 PM

The last time I played warpath, it was preeeeetty ugly to look at. I think it should be a bit more polished before it gets thrown into the mix.

It's sounds like the hardware could handle more servers.

The only issue with adding more servers is they'd just sit empty - it's pretty rare that #4 gets full even now, so I think 4 servers is kinda this community's max atm (only once a day does #4 hit the full mark, and that seems to only last one or two map rotations). I'd say until the new maps come out (an official ctf version of well was supposed to come out today, actually) just switch #4 to DB/GP and leave it at that.

However, if you are open to setting up another TF2 server, mano, maybe we could try that "customs" server again? I know it totally bombed the first time, but I think I could now guilt-trip enough people to join me on it for a night a week or something, lol.

Radiojock

01-24-2008, 03:08 PM

I do enjoy some of the customs, but then, there's also the ones you absolutely Dread.

Aka "CP Lazytown".

the Map that makes you want to shoot both nuts, with one bullet.

Gets even WORSE on servers where they leave "all-chat" on... and everyone's screaming either "JUST LET THEM TAKE THE LAST POINT" or "COME ON GUYS, JUST LET US HAVE IT", or the ever popular "NO. WE CAN STILLL WINNNNNN!"

*sigh*

Played a couple fantastic rounds of Warpath this morning.... it's not the PRETTIEST map, but I find it forces actual teamwork.

ArchAngel2

01-24-2008, 03:43 PM

manofphat

01-24-2008, 05:46 PM

I wouldn't mind trying out the customs server again in a little bit and I agree that 4 TF2 pubs should be our max right now. Once we get 4 that are steadily full nightly we'll move to 5.

I also wouldn't mind giving the customs thing another shot but after thinking about this for a little bit I think it would be best to honor this vote and see if we can even get a 4th server populated with a rotation like dustbowl/gravelpit. I'll make the changes tomorrow

Snowbow

01-24-2008, 06:06 PM

4 might be the leper server cos it used to be FF and people still don't really like that and think it is. (Is it still FF? I dunno. The name window won't go over any more for me to see.)

manofphat

01-26-2008, 02:06 PM

I've made the change to server #4 - It is now 24/7 dustbowl and gravelpit

Xy1

01-26-2008, 02:31 PM

TY! finally! :)

Server#4 is usually where I go when 3 is full... but i get bored of playing Gravelpit too many times in a row ;)
This change is most welcome!

Knight Templar

01-27-2008, 10:13 AM

We just need people to get #4 in their favourites.

toolmaker

01-27-2008, 03:45 PM

Just played today on it this afternoon and it started out with only a few people playing melee (which was still a lot of fun), but after 15 min or so we had a solid game going on, and by the time I left the server was full.

I think it'll just take a few days or so until people realize the change to #4 and start playing more aften.

Snowbow

01-27-2008, 04:00 PM

TY! finally! :)

Server#4 is usually where I go when 3 is full... but i get bored of playing Gravelpit too many times in a row ;)
This change is most welcome!

You realise all four servers are Dustbowl right now. :P (5pm Atlantic) Aww, and then two switched to Granary to destroy the Dustbowl lock.