CSS Pub - Changes Needed? Poll is Open

[Calamity Gundam]

Well I have been thinking for a while what needs to be changed on our Counter-Strike:Source pub in order for it to reclaim its former glory.

I made up an online poll that you can vote on here (http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/329827)

(it is semi-private, so only users with this link can vote)

The more votes the better. Especially if you are or will be playing on the CSS pub.

Any suggestions appreciated.

[WiseGuy]

i will return glory to the pub with my presence when i return to Ontario!

[The Killing Joke]

I will return glory to the pub with my presence, whenever I feel like playing CS:S again!

[gOOCH]

1 awp per team
16k starting money

i think theres stats with 4 players, if there were always stats you could just play the bots and get easy points or whore with your friend

[DevilShootsDevil]

16K start.. What I love in CS is pistol rounds..
Betting would be cool, I always liked to bet on other servers.. Other than that, TF2 just simply took over the players. I know it killed any interest in playing CS for me. Who knows, I might play some CS from time to time in the future.

[Slaughter]

CPL config? :)

And as mentioned above, TF2 killed CS:S for the time being.. Soon people will start moving back to CS:S.

[ORION]

CAL/CPL would be nice, but I really shouldn't talk as I can hardly stomach CS:S after upgrading my sound setup...

[Carns]

I'm very fond of a classic CS feel. So, low starting cash and all-talk on for the dead folk. I do like to bet, though I rarely bet when I'm playing in a server when it's enabled. Also, maybe a restriction on the AWP. I'm iffy on that because I feel it shouldn't have to be restricted, but the fact that it's so powerful when used in the right hands is ridiculous.

[Slaughter]

I used to hate the awp.. but when it comes down to it.. it's all part of the game.

[Wesley Crusher]

Sometimes I try to start it up if I'm bored...

I run around with a pistol and UMP and people leave after one round if I "KUNG KUNG KUNG" them to death. :(

[Slaughter]

Hahaha.. CS:S in general is dying down.

I have a few servers my self that used to be packed from 6pm till 4am and now it's hard to fill up even one of them! Even our gungame server has died. When Christmas came and brought new games to all the little kiddies, they moved away from CS:S.

[ArchAngel2]

Another thing about CS:S is that it just looks old now. TF2 may have a cartoony look to it but the graphics are really good. Lots of great effects and stuff. There is a CS:S server that I play on that still gets full in the evenings but I have a hard time staying in there and not joining one of the NR TF2 servers.

Team work FTW.

[gOOCH]

new games like tf2 and cod4 are generally easier to be good at, or at least put up good scores, tf2 is a pub game and it attracts pubbers

[CURRRTIS]

goddamn tf2... =\

[ORION]

new games like tf2 and cod4 are generally easier to be good at, or at least put up good scores, tf2 is a pub game and it attracts pubbers

Agreed, I mean sniper is 2 points per kill and is the only reason I'm often top 3 for any given round.

At the same time though CS:S is in desperate need of an audio and visual update, the big thing giving it the 1 up over 1.6 was the fact that it didn't look like bawls and the models moved naturally, but when it gets to the point where every foot step sounds repetitive, drawn out and just generally un-inspired, and the graphics are sub par to the standard set by COD4, it's going to need to get some new bling before it's quite as popular.

[gOOCH]

go2 4th bar
http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=10&ch=1&sd=0
or watch the whole thing


omg rofl, at the end of the cs part, will there be more portal, ionoooo?

[Calamity Gundam]

Nice video Gooch. They have got to be working on a new CS to some extent, be interesting to see what it will be a few years from now.

[ORION]

Terrorists win, I lol'ed
Keep in mind though gOOCH, that there is a lot of user based content available for CS:S, what I was thinking was more of a League approved Audio/Video patch.

[badastronaut]

Well, you have to remember that CS:S was released in 2004. That's quite a while ago, so of course things are starting to look a little dated.

As for the server, I'll tell you what my ideal server would be like:
-16k starting (after 1 pistol round where everyone is restricted to pistols)
-1 or 2 awps per team (just so they don't get whored out)
-All talk after death (as in, you can speak to everyone except those who are alive)
-Stats only count when it's 4 v 4.
-CAL/CPL configs loaded (so that admins can initiate them).

Yeah, I guess that's my perfect server. Maybe quakemod to, as in the voices. I love hearing "HUMILIATION" when I kill a guy with my knife :)

[SKULLCRUSHER]

I went on CSS last night when there was only a few people online. Asked Gooch to hop on and a few others and before you know it the thing was almost full for a couple of hours. All it really takes is people to hop on and have fun. I still love the game and I actually didnt do to badly, which is a nice change.

[manofphat]

Maybe we should switch to DM?

[gOOCH]

what

[badastronaut]

Maybe we should switch to DM?
I vote no. I really disliked DM CS because it's not really CS. It's just another DM game with a CS skin.

[gOOCH]

load aim maps to the server

[badastronaut]

load aim maps to the server
YESSS!!! Aim maps are so fun!

[MiNdWaRp]

How about another CS:S server? :D

[CURRRTIS]

No deathmatch or aim... please. I hate both oh so much. The server will eventually come back to what it used to be. Just give it time... haha.

[SharpShooter]

I agree no DM or aim maps, all you have to do is get a couple people to join and then you can get a good game going except yesterday when I was owning the whole other team and they just kept leaving one by one kinda sucked....

[manofphat]

Alright so how about I just make the changes that the poll has.

-Increase to 16k
-Set server settings to the current CAL ones
-Enable betting
-Reduce people required for stats

[gOOCH]

not round times for cal, wont work

[manofphat]

No we'll leave that at 2.25

[DevilShootsDevil]

Pistol round? :[

[SharpShooter]

That sounds good to me, will help speed up the game a little which will be nice.

[manofphat]

Alright the changes have been made.

[Nekkris]

One of my favorite meta mods for pubs were bank mod :)
I play a day with USP only then the next go a whole day with dualies/five-seven + para + night vision :) PRO KIT!

[DevilShootsDevil]

Okay well about the changes..
Make free view, but you already are aware of that so it's fine. Another thing.. When you are out of money - you can simply go spec and return to your team with another 16K. And it seems there is no AWP restriction, so it is really an awp spam fest sometimes.
Hate not having pistol round, but anyway, it looks like I'm gonna be visiting CS:S server more often now, almost forgot how to play/how fun it can be. Damn tf2!
//Update
Also, it might be either new settings or I haven't played CS:S for some time..
Register was bad, and by that I mean BAAAAAAAAAD. I never complain about reg, but it was hell today. Awp, not moving target, straight to the head - no effect. Must have happened at least 3 times.

[Harb]

shame u lot are never on it no more miss playing with yas all. Best change you cna make it to get fricken playing it again :P

Looks like I will have to get cod4 soon to come bug ya all :D

[Wesley Crusher]

Were you trying to awp someone who was lagged out? You can't headshot people lagged out.

[DevilShootsDevil]

Once might be, but not all the time.

[Wesley Crusher]

http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/midget2.gif

[CURRRTIS]

Wow, nice Wesley! But yeah, I like the new server rules. Hopefully once everything gets changed we'll see the regulars back up. And concerning the registry on the server -- it seemed fine to me?

[badastronaut]

I'll have to play now and see if the CS regulars (if there are any still) are as good as the TF2 regulars :)

[Calamity Gundam]

I'll have to play now and see if the CS regulars (if there are any still) are as good as the TF2 regulars :)

I thought TF2 requires no skill? J/k. It requires less than css though thats for sure.

Thanks for the changes Mano. Everythings working fine as far as I can tell except for that 16k spectate issue (which Res whores A LOT).

Also is teamspeak enabled after death? I tried talking to other palyers and no one has responded yet.

Thanks!

[DevilShootsDevil]

there are still no awp limits as far as I can tell. And with 16K start AND with obs whoring money, it's pretty much an awp fest every night.
P.S. I'm tired of ppl bashing TF2 and saying that CS:S is the ultimate game.

[manofphat]

I forgot about the all talk when dead. That'll be enabled on next map change now.

I don't think that there is anything I can do about the spectator thing. Except for one thing..... which will take effect on next map change. Not sure if it's going to work or not.


there are still no awp limits as far as I can tell. And with 16K start AND with obs whoring money, it's pretty much an awp fest every night.
P.S. I'm tired of ppl bashing TF2 and saying that CS:S is the ultimate game.

I've just confirmed that the AWP's are set to be restricted to two per team.
Also, probably best if you just drop that. Everyone has their own opinion. No one will ever win that argument.

[DevilShootsDevil]

Awesome, thx.

[badastronaut]

About the awp thing - even if awps are restricted by the server, people can still buy them through the console. That's whats happening if there are more than 2 per team. I don't think there's any other way to block that other than warn people when they do it.

[manofphat]

About the awp thing - even if awps are restricted by the server, people can still buy them through the console. That's whats happening if there are more than 2 per team. I don't think there's any other way to block that other than warn people when they do it.

I was under the impression that the console exploit was fixed.

[badastronaut]

I was under the impression that the console exploit was fixed.
If it was, it would have had to have been in the last 3 weeks. Thats around the last time I played and a friend of mine was doing it on a no awp server.

If it has been, I'm sorry for wasting your time :)

[manofphat]

Nope. You win lol