TF2 #3 - Dustbowl / Gravelpit?

[rk-]

Perhaps change #3 to DB/GP? It would end up being DB more often since that's a longer map, but with just a bit of variation.

[Sher1ator]

Perhaps change #3 to DB/GP? It would end up being DB more often since that's a longer map, but with just a bit of variation.

I would love to see the rotation be:

Dustbowl
Dustbowl
Gravelpit
Dustbowl
Dustbowl
Gravelpit
etc...

They are two similar maps and it would add variety from time to time.

[ArchAngel2]

I would love to see the rotation be:

Dustbowl
Dustbowl
Gravelpit
Dustbowl
Dustbowl
Gravelpit
etc...

They are two similar maps and it would add variety from time to time.

That's a great idea. Not sure how it would turn out in reality but I would definitely love to have it switched up once in a while.

[notorious]

i like it...server #3 could definately use a refresher occassionally..i want to sit at my computer for 5 hours straight and not get bored of the same map, and gravelpit is just awesome.

[mico911]

#3 could definitely use the occasional gravel pit.

[marshX]

great idea, throwing gravelpit in the rotation couldn't hurt. Also giving it a longer round limit like dustbowl would be cool.

[Onawire]

great idea, throwing gravelpit in the rotation couldn't hurt. Also giving it a longer round limit like dustbowl would be cool.

Higher scores aren't neccesary, 12 is fine but remove the time variable period. Its really frustrating to be in the midst of a 10-10 match only to have it end because the time is up.

Gpit on 3 is a great idea, as is Sher1ators suggestion on 2 DB 1 Gpit as the rotation.

[notorious]

do it! do it!

[marshX]

Higher scores aren't neccesary, 12 is fine but remove the time variable period. Its really frustrating to be in the midst of a 10-10 match only to have it end because the time is up.

Gpit on 3 is a great idea, as is Sher1ators suggestion on 2 DB 1 Gpit as the rotation.

thats what I meant, srry if joo miss understood.

[manofphat]

Changing #3?
That's something that I'd have to spam on the server for a while and then have a vote.
Oh man. I'm going to have to move those posts into a new thread.

[iheartyou]

I give the A-OK to add gravilpit into the SERVER#3 rotation, Dustbowlx2, Gravilpitx1 repeat.

[toolmaker]

Yes yes yes yes yes!

[FourierT]

I concur with DB, DB, GP.

[Nekkris]

Yeah sounds good, lol@#3 regulas,
now they'll be good more than one map :P

[iheartyou]

Yeah sounds good, lol@#3 regulas,
now they'll be good more than one map :P

And perhaps they'll make you the new whippin boy for more than 1 map =p

[Nekkris]

I can just hear the pipes..

[DevilShootsDevil]

KABOOOOOOM

[MiNdWaRp]

HAVE AT THEM LADS!

[manofphat]

I've added the advert. Lets see what happens

[Xy1]

I concur with DB, DB, GP.

Idem!

Great idea Sherlator! (2:1 DB:GP)

[Nekkris]

2dustbowl1gravelpit.com

[badastronaut]

2dustbowl1gravelpit.com
LOL!

And yeah, I'd love to see #3 get a little variety. The players there are far too intense for me though >.>

[Mortivex]

LOL!

And yeah, I'd love to see #3 get a little variety. The players there are far too intense for me though >.>

That's exactly why I'm not against adding GP to #3.

(I can't say I'm 100% for it, I do loves me some DB..)

But GP is a great map for really skilled, intense players...which I have to say, #3 24/7 DB has.

My suggestion, is if you do add GP to the mix on #3, make the times staggered a bit. #3 is so popular because it's all DB all the time...GP would be a nice change, but not if I have to play it for equal time.

Pre-tNR - I played a 24/7 GP/DB - it gets as gay if the teams are stacked on GP, if not more than if on DB. What's annoying on DB? Spawn camping? Demo-spam? These things have the potential to be MUCH worse on GP given the DB regualars. It gets way more tiresome playing GP on uneven teams than it does on DB - GP is a longer map, so there's way more chance to be cheap, and drive players away.

If there's a way to make it 75% DB, 25% GP - I'm for it.

[Fil]

I'm completely down, no matter how much db is my favourite map, a little variety would be good every now and then.

[whizzlur]

I wouldn't mind a little gravel pit mixed in with dustbowl. Just get prepared for ww3 as 20 soldiers cover the air with rockets. Bring it :)

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

If #3 went to 24/7 dustbowl/gravel pit I would be the happiest man in the world!

[notorious]

I wouldn't mind a little gravel pit mixed in with dustbowl. Just get prepared for ww3 as 20 soldiers cover the air with rockets. Bring it :)


WW3 IT IS.

[Sher1ator]

Wow this idea really took off.

[marshX]

Wow this idea really took off.

no kidding! .. So whens it getting done?

[Sweetlou]

thumbs up

[notorious]

sher1ator <3 for this idea

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

ya of course it took off. Dustbowl and Gravel are the same play style, and I think everyone likes them both very much.

[GreenEnvy]

sounds good

[Sharpie]

Didn't we try this before on #4? I do support the idea though. Its probably more likely to work this time since players can't just go to the dedicated dustbowl server.

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

Can we please try this out.

I think it would be just awesome.

[badastronaut]

Didn't we try this before on #4? I do support the idea though. Its probably more likely to work this time since players can't just go to the dedicated dustbowl server.
Yeah, I thought we did too (mentioned it in another thread). The problem with #4 was that it was offline for so long that many of those who weren't regulars either forgot about it or didn't notice it when it came back.

#3 is just super popular - probably has a lot of regulars who aren't on the forums. A lot of people that bookmark #3 probably don't even know about any of the other servers - they just like playing there. Because of this, I don't think that the server will be any less full.

[Blitz Ap0C 552]

IMO the server will be more popular as 24/7 dustbowl/gravel.

The only time I leave that server is to get a little variety. But if the server has a little more variety, the more I will want to play on it.

I think the important aspect is the offense/defense map style. That is what people like, not just dustbowl.

[Mortivex]

Wasn't the time they started up with #4 around the same time they had a router issue, then a switch issue, then shitty memory - causing #4 to be either down or damn near unplayable due to lag?

#3 as DB/GP FTW

[CynicalFate]

Yeah i think it would be a great idea i usually end up leaving #3 too go play on 1 or 2 just for something diffrent my luck usualy turns out that when i switch they change too dustbowl anywayz

But it would be great too see some gravelpit in there 2 too atleast change it up a bit

[BlossoM]

Try it out, see how it goes :)
should be fun !

[Xy1]

Lets get a vote up already! Haven't seen many or any negative opinions on this yet...

[Darkside1]

I agree with this recomendation strongly.
Dustbowl and Gravelpit are two of the most played maps in TF2.
and it's not often to find the two maps on a rotation of there own!
DO IT !

[manofphat]

lol I don't even think we need a vote.
I'll try to get to making the change tomorrow morning

[PhilouFelin]

I didn't have enough time to read the whole thread, and also it seems that the decision to add gravelpit to this server is already done (looking at the last reply of manofphat), but I would like to say that I AGREE AT 100%

GravelPit is so great! And I'm sure that it's gonna be real challenge to play on this map with the guys who play on the 24/7 Dustbowl. The last point (C) will be a real challenge to cap!

[manofphat]

I've just made the change.
There used to be a bug with the map cycle that would cause me great pain.
Please let me know if the server still works properly.

[notorious]

So Win!

[Rolo]

I like server #3 because of the high number of players allowed at once, I'm glad you added Gravelpit!
Cheers

[notorious]

it didnt change to gravelpit when i was on. even nextmap kept saying dustbowl. maybe thats a prob with the nextmap though

[manofphat]

Dag nabbit

[iheartyou]

Granary on Sever #3? lol, mano whats up?

[manofphat]

Just noticed granary came on. Great success!

[EDIT] OH SHIT I DID GRANARY INSTEAD OF GRAVELPIT

[SKULLCRUSHER]

Nublets r us !

Edit: un-nubbed

[manofphat]

Fixed

[Mortivex]

I'm pretty sure I speak for a lot of people who played GP today on #3 with two sentiments:

1 - Love it.

2 - You HAVE TO drop the winning condition from 12pts to either 6 or at the very most 9, it takes 1.5-2 hours just to play that one round of GP.

Most all the players I saw were happy with the change, but the match is just crazy long.

I saw a few people who had no idea what was going on, and complained they lost "their 24/7 DB," but these are also the people who ignored the messeges flashing every few minutes during play advertising not only the forums, but the fact that the server rotation was going to change and to go to the forums to protest/accept it - so to them I say :P and I have little sympathy.

All in all, great change. As much as I love DB, it gets tiresome after people become pro at it. It was funny seeing people forget there are other classes than demo/engy after playing DB for so long.

Just please, drop the win condition a little!

[manofphat]

I dropped the win condition to 6. Thanks!

[Mortivex]

No, thank you! You the man...ofphat...

[notorious]

i love how everyone is still in the dustbowl mindset and everyone goes demo/engie.

it should be fun to see who is good with other classes and who isnt.

[Sweetlou]

pff pyro alround kinda guy no need too change but shooting the rocket was fun at first

[m0interactive]

lol, we were playing for almost 2 hours to make it till 12, great it has changed now to 6! The good thing with Gravelpit is that you can choose any class, doesn't matter if your a scout or a demo, it is all balanced!

[PhilouFelin]

Thanks for adding the map manofphat!

I played on GravelPit yesterday around 11pm and it was pretty cool!

BTW, it's a good idea to drop the winning condition to 6 points! Otherwise, the games are so long!
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i love how everyone is still in the dustbowl mindset and everyone goes demo/engie.

it should be fun to see who is good with other classes and who isnt.

And it should be fun to see who is good in other maps than Dustbowl!

Btw, Demoman is still one of the best defense/attack class in GravelPit. Anyway, I think we all agree that demoman is a so powerfull class, whatever the map is!

[Nekkris]

Well we're speaking of round limits (OT Alert), if this hasn't been said and done, 12 rounds of badlands is too much, nerf plx!

[ungst]

Good call on adding a map to this server...i might even go on #3 every now and again because of it.

[notorious]

And it should be fun to see who is good in other maps than Dustbowl!

Btw, Demoman is still one of the best defense/attack class in GravelPit. Anyway, I think we all agree that demoman is a so powerfull class, whatever the map is!

agree. at least it'll let all the db fanatics (which i was at one point...starting to like having a mix of map) learn other maps and learn the strategies for new maps.

Demoman is still definately a great class for gravelpit..i just fear having the stage 3 cap 2 of dustbowl sentiment transfer over to gravelpit *cough* demospamming *cough. i've seen this happen on other servers and its not fun in the least

[manofphat]

#3 is taking a serious hit right now as far as popularity goes

[FourierT]

#3 is taking a serious hit right now as far as popularity goes

Are you saying that the server empties out whenever GP comes on? Lies! The map is a spy!

[Onawire]

#3 is taking a serious hit right now as far as popularity goes

Agreed, I'm finding the lack of random pubbies disturbing...and I do see the server empty of pubs on gpit I think the people may be speaking...

[notorious]

quite disturbing

i see a lot of the #3 people on #1 and #2 nowadays though. maybe thats what it is?

[CynicalFate]

Yeah i think thats what it is i mean i kinda got sick of DB in general cuz i used to play it so much so now i pretty much play #1 or #2 and ive noticed alot of the db regs in those maps instead of #3

and ive never really noticed gravelpit empty out it usualy just as full and fun and i liked the fact it switched up

but i think for the most part its because the reguler dbers are starting to play 1 and 2 instead

[Sweetlou]

pff all the talk about demo spaming got too them. GP is fun as hell I remember the first night i played it the team didn't know how too work together till the 6th round and then we rolled them too 12

[manofphat]

I don't think it's everyone realizing that they don't like dustbowl. It looks like all the dustbowlers don't like gravelpit.

http://module.game-monitor.com/67.213.67.73:27015/graph/tz:-4/rank.png?d=1m&40233546

[Excalabur]

What's that graph of, mano?

[iheartyou]

I don't think it's everyone realizing that they don't like dustbowl. It looks like all the dustbowlers don't like gravelpit.

http://module.game-monitor.com/67.213.67.73:27015/graph/tz:-4/rank.png?d=1m&40233546

no idea what that represents, but the number is around 70... thats a B? lol

[manofphat]

It represents our popularity on a global TF2 scale

[Excalabur]

Aha. So we're less loved now, huh? Sucky.

Seems like a bad way to measure, given that our pop ranking can fluctuate based on others' changes... but it makes your point nonetheless. (A better measure would be person-hours played, probably..)

[Sher1ator]

The server seems to stay full through gravelpit, I mean, there are the normal number of people who leave due to the map being over, dustbowl or no, but it fills up at a decent speed so...