CPU wont power on, psu?

[Zimba]

So since around april or so after i came back home from school i put my computer back in its box and let er sit there besides the 1 day a week when i plug it back in to change my ipod songs. So i go to plug it in yesterday and what a surprise the god damn thing wont turn on! i flicked the power off/on and still no go. Before it was doing this but if i just hit the switch on the psu from on to off to on again it would kick in. This time it didnt so i called Antec tech support and there were basically no help in troubleshooting so i just called an hour back and had them fill out an RMA. So today i had to spent $22 to ship the damned thing to california. I didnt really feel like finding someone with a big enough psu to power my computer so i just jumped to the conclusion that it was the psu. Its a 500w smartpower 2.0 that came with my case.

So what do you guys think? the mobo has been working flawless for 10 months but ive had the computer shut off randomly a couple times as to which i am almost certain that its the psu. Now im probably going to be going back to school without a god damn power supply unless they magically get it back to me within 2 weeks and if not im gonna have to cash out another $100 for a 'quality' psu (which antec was a few years ago) and at the same time upgrade to a x2 6000+ :))

Anyways i need some input guys

[Crayola]

lol, i had the same psu and it crapped out on me also after about a year. i just ended up buying a new one rather than rmaing it

[ORION]

*Facepalm AMD fanboy has a hard-on 4 AMD's

Did you consider the "paperclip" PSU test?
1. PSU OFF + DETACHED
2. Jump the GREEN line on your 20/24 pin to any of the BLACK lines on the same connector (I'm pretty sure this would work with any black line though)
3. PSU ON
4. If 80/120mm Fan spins, PSU SHOULD work (Possible wire short is possible).

Also:
Protip -> be very careful when dealing with any PSU, always shut the system power down, then the PSU power, then disconnect the power line, I have found that doing anything different can and probably will break your PSU unless your PSU is an Enermax (which are indestructible).

[Zimba]

*Facepalm AMD fanboy has a hard-on 4 AMD's

Did you consider the "paperclip" PSU test?
1. PSU OFF + DETACHED
2. Jump the GREEN line on your 20/24 pin to any of the BLACK lines on the same connector (I'm pretty sure this would work with any black line though)
3. PSU ON
4. If 80/120mm Fan spins, PSU SHOULD work (Possible wire short is possible).

Also:
Protip -> be very careful when dealing with any PSU, always shut the system power down, then the PSU power, then disconnect the power line, I have found that doing anything different can and probably will break your PSU unless your PSU is an Enermax (which are indestructible).

im not an amd fanboy, i simply built my system of an am2 board :lol: and i like the price/performance they offer...

anyways i took my comp into the local comp store and it was definitely the PSU so im happy :)) now i just gotta wait to see how long its gonna take to get it back

[Crayola]

when did you buy your cpu / mobo?

[Zimba]

when did you buy your cpu / mobo?

last september, e6300 was cheap at the time but still $40ish more than my the processor i chose and the mobos were at least $30 more and the price/performance according to all the articles i read was weak on intels part as to why i chose AMD...i bought the x2 4200+ and will be buying the x2 6000+ when i get my psu back

$300 for a mobo/cpu that is in the same ball park as the e6600 is a damn fine deal.

[The Killing Joke]

Did you consider the "paperclip" PSU test?
1. PSU OFF + DETACHED
2. Jump the GREEN line on your 20/24 pin to any of the BLACK lines on the same connector (I'm pretty sure this would work with any black line though)
3. PSU ON
4. If 80/120mm Fan spins, PSU SHOULD work (Possible wire short is possible).


You've just had your "Protip" rights revoked. Anyone telling someone to test a "hot" Power Supply by sticking a paperclip in between leads does not get any privileges or bragging rights.

Consider these two things:

1.) He does it incorrectly (or correctly, for that matter, and either your information is wrong, or his PSU was wired wrong from the factory) and fries himself. His parents (or his "Estate", if you will) find out he learned it from your recommendation. You're sued, and screwed.

2.) A basic rule of electricity is this: 1 AMP at 1 SECOND = DEATH. Bad power, a badly wired power supply, or a host of other situations can occur, delivering quick death to those who are 'not in the know'.

Here's what I recommend:

Get another working power supply, and try it. If it works, good. If not, it's something else. (Another quick rule of basic troubleshooting, always try the easiest things first.) It could always be the motherboard, the CPU, or the RAM. (Hellz, back in the day, it could have been the on-board cache, a badly connected keyboard, or a host of other things.)

I'm not ragging on you, Orion, but as I've done this for 20+ years, and because I know that someone who reads this likely has not, I don't want to see anyone get hurt. Remember your audience - they probably haven't had as much experience as we might have had.

[chris]

Here's what I recommend:

Get another working power supply, and try it. If it works, good. If not, it's something else. (Another quick rule of basic troubleshooting, always try the easiest things first.) It could always be the motherboard, the CPU, or the RAM. (Hellz, back in the day, it could have been the on-board cache, a badly connected keyboard, or a host of other things.)


If you go to a small local shop they should have a test PSU.

[ORION]

Except for the part where that is what the PSU MANUFACTURERS tell you to do to ensure the PSU is not working before returning/RMA'ing it. The BLACK lines have no power coming from them and I will GLADLY lick one and take a picture. They are ground lines, they are harmless, Green is fan power, those fans run on about .18 mA give or take.
It is the 12v and 5v power lines that one must worry about (Yellow and Red respectively)

NOTE: PSU4 is Red
http://www.flecom.net/%5BH%5DOCP/faq/7v-nostart.gif

My protip = Antec/Enermax/Tt Protip

Case and Point: It's depth perception and hand eye co-ordination that's guna make the difference between sending *gasp* 11v's though a paperclip, not any amount of 'experience' (beyond being able to identify a green wire)

Cross reference (or request that I do) shit before making an attack like this please.

[The Killing Joke]

Cross reference (or request that I do) shit before making an attack like this please.

Please refer to the part where I said I wasn't ragging on (i.e. attacking) you. If you'd like, I'll build up a perfectly working Power Supply, and let you lick any lead you wish - I've seen more than my fair share of functional PSU's with hot running through a black lead, so I'm trying to say that, while your approach may be sound, you (having experience doing it) would likely be able to pick out a short or miswire BEFORE licking, while someone without experience, would not.

That's why we have places that repair our cars, computers, refrigerators - what have you - so that people with less technical knowledge don't hurt themselves.

Hell - it happens so frequently, that TLC made a figurine. So, I dedicate this one to you:

http://shopping.discovery.com/DiscoveryStore/images/products/extra/755264_xl.jpg

"Know when to Not Do It Yourself"... FTS. (For The Save.)

[ORION]

Please refer to the part where I said I wasn't ragging on (i.e. attacking) you.

Touch?

Still, a PSU is far from lethal unless MAJORLY malfunctioning, You can do alot more damage with a disposable camera then with most modern PSU's (trust me on this one)

[The Killing Joke]

You can do alot more damage with a disposable camera then with most modern PSU's (trust me on this one)

/signed

On a completely unrelated (see: hijack!) note, I just came back in from checking out my car (the classic Saab I bought) and found out that I was left a nice (and not so nice) gift.

I pulled up the rear carpet, and found where an amp used to be - so the previous owner had been nice enough to leave me all of the wiring that I'd need to hook up the head unit. Here's the 'not-so-nice' part - I found the power and ground leads, and I thought, 'Damn, this red better not be hot, just bouncing around in the trunk like this!'

Touch the red to black, and arky-sparky. Damn. Who in their right mind doesn't pull the inline fuse out BEFORE detaching the amp for removal?

/end hijack

[Knight Templar]

what's a saab?

Fixed yet Zimba

[The Killing Joke]

what's a saab?

More car than you'll ever own.

:cool:

[Zimba]

what's a saab?

Fixed yet Zimba

yeah i rma'd it, antecs support is fucking useless im never buying any of their shit again

[manofphat]

<3 Antec